Comments on: Distinguishing Red and White Oak https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/ WOOD Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:52:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Simon K. F. B. https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-25469 Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:52:03 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-25469 “Red oak shouldn’t be used outside” fully agree on that, so imagine my surprise when I restored an antique stitching pony (for leatherworking). It was completely black when I got it and after sanding it, it looked a lot like all my other oak, which is white oak. At the time I hadn’t learned the difference between them and since white oak is most frequently used, I just assumed it was white oak and drilled out some old screws, before plugging them with white oak plugs. Only to be surprised when I oiled it, by all of its lovely reds, only interrupted by my hole plugs.

Looking back I can clearly see the signs. Both the flecks and the rays are shorter on it than on my white oak, but I didn’t connect the dots until reading this, so massive thanks! Will be a major help in the future, as they certainly doesn’t smell different. It doesn’t matter for this piece though, as I reinstalled the original steel hinge and I will later replace the it with one made of brass, which I will set into it too for a better look. Below I have attached a before and after, as well as my surprise and a picture of what it looks like before oil and after oil for future readers of this guide. I recorded my restoration as a video, but haven’t edited it yet.

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By: Christine Malone https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23877 Fri, 27 Dec 2024 22:35:24 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23877 Hi Eric. I have been told my hardwoods are white oak, but I posted a question on Houzz, and someone said they think they’re red oak. Can you take a look and give your thoughts?

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By: Paul Appleton https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23653 Mon, 09 Dec 2024 15:34:35 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23653 In reply to Paul Appleton.

The supplier has now said that it is European oak

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By: Paul Appleton https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23635 Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:56:40 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23635 Hi. I am wanting to get oak worktops for the kitchen. I asked the worktop company what type of oak they have. they didnt know but sent me a sample.

Reading through this great site, as I have done many times, I’m still not sure if this sample is red or white.

The colour is more like white.. a slight olive tinge. The pores are mostly open. The rays are kind of long .. I think..

I want it to be white because its going to get wet around the sink. If its red, I might as well pay half the price for beech.

I’d be very gratefull to hear what anyone else thinks.

Thanks

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By: Jessi https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23618 Wed, 04 Dec 2024 20:03:25 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23618 In reply to Michael.

Looks like cedar (as I lay here next to the wall of my cedar log home)

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By: Eric https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23470 Fri, 15 Nov 2024 08:05:01 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23470 In reply to Jennifer.

It could be all just white oak. I would need to see a clear view of the endgrain on multiple pieces and check for tyloses to say that more definitively.

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By: Jennifer https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23462 Thu, 14 Nov 2024 10:55:35 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23462 In reply to Eric.

Thank you, Eric. You just solved another mystery I had…, I don’t have any boards on the upstairs floors that show any signs of cupping. But on the first floor, I have quite a few.

So then do you think it is all one type of oak? Could it all be white?

Thanks again.

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By: Eric https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23461 Thu, 14 Nov 2024 03:22:16 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23461 In reply to Jennifer.

Unless the wood was specifically sorted for color and grain, it could just be down to the natural color variation of oak. It’s really hard to say for sure. One possibility is that some of the planks were replaced or repaired too, and that might account for some of the color differences.

The first three pics have quartersawn grain (or close to it), which has the effect of helping to make the boards look a little more homogenous, while the four picture is of flatsawn pieces. Flatsawn boards show a lot more vivid patterns in the grain, but are a lot harder to get to match and appear cohesive. Mostly a style preference. (Though QS pieces tend to be more stable in changes in humidity that FS pieces, but with planks this small, it probably doesn’t matter much.)

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By: Jennifer https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23458 Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:53:01 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23458 Hi Eric, just found this post and it’s so helpful. I’m refinishing 100-year old floors in a 1926 Western NY foursquare. I have done so much research and remained confused as to whether they are red vs. white oak. I saw in these comments a few instances where old floors were actually a mix of the two, and a few of my neighbors have a mix as well. Do mine look like a mix to you? And can you comment on 1) why this was done in the past (perhaps the stains used back then didn’t show much of a difference so they didn’t care? or the speed with which homes were built meant no time to sort wood?) and 2) tips for refinishing an old and mixed floor. I am planning to trowel-fill the floor (was going to use white oak tinted Goodfilla) then use Osmo wood wax and PolyX. I wanted to use water-based but I have noticed oil-based stains seem to even out the color variances much more effectively.

Photo 1: upstairs floor pre-sanding. Photo 2: upstairs floor post-sanding. Photo 3: upstairs original floor (!) found hidden under 4 layers of contact paper inside a laundry shoot. Photo 4: downstairs living room floor (it has much more grain than the upstairs.. was this common in the past and was there a reason?)

Thank you for putting your expertise out there and helping the rest of us do better. I appreciate the time it takes to do so!

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By: Breck Wilhite https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/comment-page-3/#comment-23305 Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:39:48 +0000 http://www.wood-database.com/?page_id=24#comment-23305 Is the discoloration from the sodium nitrite solution permanent?

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